Sunday, December 19, 2021

Sub Rosa Solo Session

Unedited, slightly incoherent, and mostly redundant, The Beige and The Bold Solo Sessions are episodes where I run through a show with just you, the listener, as my companion. In "Sub Rosa," things get messy.

Sub Rosa has gotten infamous in later years as the one where Dr. Crusher fucks the ghost. I've heard it said that if Riker had fucked the ghost we wouldn't give that episode nearly as much guff. I disagree. Riker gets a lot of guff for his love interests and if he'd fucked a ghost, he'd get flack for it. It would be the ur-Riker episode.

Also, I did a little count recently and there are 10 ghost episodes of Star Trek: The Next Generation. That's a lot of ghosts. A lot.

The Beige and The Bold is hosted on Anchor and is available on most podcasting platforms. New episodes are usually posted on Sunday nights at 9:00 PM CST.



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Sunday, December 12, 2021

Will and Dave

It's funny how people process things. I'm constantly tired of the Star Trek Questions. I'm like a vampire fielding questions about utilitarian philosophy, the physicist hearing about turning on headlights when traveling just below the speed of light, the vegan being asked about protein.

Is the transporter a murder machine? No. Why do the consoles explode? Drama. Is the Federation's policy of respect for other cultures just as bad as The Borg? No, you fucking idiot with a malfunctioning brain.

When Dave Chapelle jokes about being "team TERF"--like he's sympathizing with feminists who exclude trans women--his defenders (and Dave) say we need to watch his whole special to understand the nuance of his position on whether trans people deserve respect as people.

But somehow, when Wil Wheaton talks about respect for others, those same supporters crack out a Star Trek meme even older than the metaphysical questions about transporters: "Shut up Wesley."

Are Dave Chapelle's supporters actually encouraging an understanding of truth and complicated context of--of fucking course not. A nuanced reading would be that two men of a similar age have different and complex takes (Wil Wheaton is one year older than Dave Chapelle).

But that's not the world we fucking live in. Whatever its merits, Dave Chapelle's "trans people are mean on the internet" spiel has attracted people who just hate trans people. It encourages and focuses them. We're told that recognizing this is somehow worse than the behavior of those hateful folks. That taking the side of legitimately oppressed folks 'oppresses the oppressors, actually, which is 100% equally as bad' 

Whether it's gay people or black people or trans people, the folks who believe the social fabric will utterly disintegrate if we're given equal rights because they equate their comfort with a functioning society will always oppose the equality of minority groups. 

I don't agree with Dave Chapelle, but I don't doubt his feelings of loss for a friend who died. I also understand Wil Wheaton's journey of empathy for people who aren't like him. It's pretty simple to respect folks who are using their platform to talk about shit they care about while disagreeing or understanding the harm their words are doing.

It's not rocket science.

Sunday, November 28, 2021

Lower Decks

Hey it's me and Matt lookin' at one of Star Trek: The Next Generation's last classic episodes: "Lower Decks." We're gonna watch it together on Netflix and then talk about it some.

Given that Star Trek: Lower Decks is based on this episode, it's surprisingly heavy. The series has a lot of humor with only touches of drama and pathos, but it does have those as well. It's true to its roots and it's the best Star Trek I've watched since Deep Space Nine.

Less seriously, Taurik did get that Ensign killed because he couldn't count to four.

The Beige and The Bold is hosted on Anchor and is available on most podcasting platforms. New episodes are posted on Sunday nights at 9:00 PM CST.



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Sunday, November 21, 2021

Homeward Solo Session

Unedited, slightly incoherent, and mostly redundant, The Beige and The Bold Solo Sessions are episodes where I run through a show with just you, the listener, as my companion. In "Homeward," I basically miss everything Dr. Crusher was saying because she addresses a lot of my concerns, but--

--what about DOMESTICATION?! Do you know how long it took for us to make wheat, corn, and other plants edible?! The Boraalans aren't starting over from their modest, medieval beginnings; they're going back to hunting and gathering. I'd be shocked if their culture survived that. If Lower Decks (the series) could casually kill off Spock 2, I'm rooting for them to revisit New Boraal and just find bodies.

The word I was thinking of was "referendum." Seems like something that The Federation could put together over a long weekend. I'd much rather see the story where Picard has to debate the fate of these guys with his own agenda against someone else, rather than just have him shrug his way through least-bad options.

The Beige and The Bold is hosted on Anchor and is available on most podcasting platforms. New episodes are usually posted on Sunday nights at 9:00 PM CST.



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Wednesday, November 17, 2021

The Pegasus

I'm watching TNG's 7th season alongside you, the viewer, and Alex from Media Thinkings and Cinema Joes.

It's about Riker and loyalty versus principle. It's a great conflict that has a lot of ideas behind it and addresses a lot of the structure of the Star Trek universe. "Sadly, we don't see any compelling alternative ideas behind this. Don't be a dick and murder your crew, future Starfleet captains."

Also, this episode is connected to the series finale for Star Trek: Enterprise. I don't like Enterprise, so I dodge most of animus based on that. For those of you who do like Enterprise, I'm sorry.

Alex can be found on twitter @MediaThinkings and @CinemaJoes, as well as on Anchor on PopBreakTV.

The Beige and The Bold is hosted on Anchor and is available on most podcasting platforms. New episodes are posted on Sunday nights at 9:00 PM CST.



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Wednesday, October 27, 2021

Parallels

I'm watching TNG's 7th season alongside you, the viewer and Grymm from Descents part one and two. We're talking about Worf. In time.

It's a collection of roads not traveled, which is a pretty good look when, dead Geordis aside, most are pretty badass. Worf ranks up if people die I guess. It feels like Starfleet wouldn't function quite so much like a Klingon ship, but I guess it does. As is, it makes Worf look a little undervalued. Like, if he was given the opportunity he'd excel. 

But hey, Lieutenant Commander Worf leaving security and re-entering the command track is just something that Star Trek may never be able to handle.

I mixed up two episodes when talking about Deep Space Nine: "Distant Voices" and "Whispers." The episode I was thinking of is just called "Whispers."

So Worf and Troi: Hot or not?

The Beige and The Bold is hosted on Anchor and is available on most podcasting platforms. New episodes are posted on Sunday nights at 9:00 PM CST.



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Sunday, October 17, 2021

Force of Nature

I'm watching TNG's 7th season alongside you, the viewer and Joie from Jump and Shoot. We're talking about climate change. In space.

Season seven puts the "beige" in The Beige and The Bold and this one is no exception. I've gravitated further from "language of television" and closer to "lazy contemporary assumptions." This episode is that so much because Star Trek just ignores climate change and then everyone pretends they handwaved technological solution to it. 

It shows how the very short attention span of television is ill-suited to handle something lingering and ongoing like climate change. Imagine if this hung around Trek's neck for the next 8 years. We'd get tired of it. But hey, we'll get be beyond tired due to climate change.

Please enjoy our fun podcast.

You can listen to Jump & Shoot on Soundcloud at https://soundcloud.app.goo.gl/yQLXv. The Beige and The Bold is hosted on Anchor and is available on most  podcasting platforms. New episodes are posted on Sunday nights at 9:00  PM CST.



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Sunday, October 10, 2021

Inheritance

I'm watching Season 7's "Inheritance" alongside you, the viewer. No co-host this week, just me talking about moms. Specifically, Data's mom, who appears out of nowhere after decades and wants to start a relationship with Data.

In retrospect, it gets weird. I'm going to blame it on Star Trek: Picard, but it gets weird.

Am I wrong though? Is Dr. Tainer's desire to reach out to Data after years when she chose to pointlessly abandon him on Omicron Theta okay? Is Data's response to all of this a fair equivalent to a sympathetic, human reaction? I am deep in the weeds on this one.

The Beige and The Bold is hosted on Anchor and is available on most podcasting platforms. New episodes are posted on Sunday nights at 9:00 PM CST.



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Monday, October 04, 2021

Attached

My guest co-host is Gepwin this week and he's on to something with these tricorders. They do an awful lot. 

I'm not sure if there's some big idea or approachable social metaphor or human story in this episode. Unless it's homeopathy. Because we get one ounce of those things and whole lotta tap water to keep 'em in.

You can listen to Gepwin and Dr. Izixs to their own watch of Star Trek in Watchers of Tomorrow: https://watchersoftomorrow.podbean.com/

The  Beige and The Bold is hosted on Anchor and is available on most podcasting platforms. New episodes are usually posted on Sunday nights at 9:00 PM CST.



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Sunday, September 26, 2021

Masks

In the far distant future of the 24th century, museum exhibits will interact with you.

It's hard to say anything about "Masks" because there's no human story, no lesson, and no real point to it. It's a standalone idea that's executed with moderate skill. It's a Star Trek episode that happened.

I dunno. How are YOU doing?

My guest this week is NamelessSeeD, who runs For Heroes Gaming. You can check it out at https://www.fourheroesgaming.com/ and see his other projects at https://www.fourheroesgaming.com/projects

The Beige and The Bold is hosted on Anchor and is available on most podcasting platforms. New episodes are usually posted on Sunday nights at 9:00 PM CST. If you have Netflix and would like to be a guest host for an episode in season seven, let me know on twitter @VanVelding or via Discord: https://ift.tt/3jVYoGL



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Tuesday, September 21, 2021

Dark Page

Dark Page is a heavy and surreal episode which is a hard thing to make fun of, but me and Smokey try. 

I hope you guys like How I Met Your Mother*. 

It's great how this episode deals with language and trauma. As best as a 45-minute episodic TV drama can. It utilizes Majel Barret effectively and Marina Sirtis gets some decent work. I'm not sure why this episode isn't remembered better. It's got an IMDB score of 6.4, which puts it in the bottom middle of Season 7. I don't see how it's neck-and-neck with "Force of Nature," which we'll get to.

I'm going to be mixing some of these episodes up. When it was just me and Derek I could keep a schedule (I couldn't, but you get my point). Now that I'm trying to get episodes with guests recorded before TNG goes off Netflix, which is schedule to happen "TBD but soon," I'm taking what I can, when I can. I wouldn't 100% bet on "Attached" being the episode for next week.

*Obviously, not the finale.

The Beige and The Bold is hosted on Anchor and is available on most podcasting platforms. New episodes are usually posted on Sunday nights at 9:00 PM CST. If you have Netflix and would like to be a guest host for an episode in season seven, let me know on twitter @VanVelding or via Discord: https://ift.tt/3jVYoGL



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Sunday, September 12, 2021

Phantasms Solo Session

Unedited, slightly incoherent, and mostly redundant, The Beige and The Bold Solo Sessions are episodes where I run through a show all on my own.

Man, "Phantasms" has got it all; lazy pseudoscience, disdain for people who aren't the main cast, and a gaping hole where a big idea should be. It's a yawner that's only slightly redeemed by its strong and bizarre visuals. 

I cover The Original Series' saurian brandy and its contribution to the field of psychology, the fish-eye lens that dates from the same era, and the horrors of being assimilated into The Admiral Collective. What else is there to talk about here?

That "whole hog" thing wasn't a weight-based joke; it's what happens when you gotta keep talking for 45 minutes without anyone else letting you do thinky-times. Same with that Patty Hearst reference; her status as a "volunteer" is not something you wanna hang your rhetorical hat on.

The Beige and The Bold is hosted on Anchor and is available on most podcasting platforms. New episodes are usually posted on Sunday nights at 9:00 PM CST. If you have Netflix and would like to be a guest host for an episode in season seven, let me know on twitter @VanVelding or via Discord: https://ift.tt/3jVYoGL



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Thursday, September 09, 2021

Gambit, Pt II

Gepwin and I talk Horatio Hornblower, the black boxes of command, and how logic and emotional are a little more complicated than Vulcans talk about.

Also, how much bull-hockey is it when Picard just hacks [REDACTED] off-screen. That's a big sword of Damocles hanging over this story and then Picard just Uno Reverse cards it when no one is looking. Disappointing.

Also: More like The Stone of Gol'darn Disappointing.

You can find Gepwin's work on Watchers of Tomorrow here: https://watchersoftomorrow.podbean.com/ and his YouTube channel here.

The Beige and The Bold is hosted on Anchor and is available on most   podcasting platforms. New episodes are usually posted on Sunday nights   at 9:00 PM CST. If you have Netflix and would like to be a guest host   for an episode in season seven, let me know on twitter @VanVelding or   via Discord: https://ift.tt/3jVYoGL



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Sunday, August 22, 2021

Gambit, Pt I

We talk about the narrative structure and the shallowness of fake outs and deaths in media, from Boromir, to Picard, to John Snow. There's some discussion about Star Trek clumsily trying to affect seedy bars and archaeology sites. 

Gambit is the most uncompelling compelling episode I've ever seen and we try to figure out why. For everything happening, it doesn't feel like anything. Why doesn't this episode charm even a bit?

You can find Gepwin's work on Watchers of Tomorrow here: https://watchersoftomorrow.podbean.com/ and his YouTube channel here.

The Beige and The Bold is hosted on Anchor and is available on most  podcasting platforms. New episodes are usually posted on Sunday nights  at 9:00 PM CST. If you have Netflix and would like to be a guest host  for an episode in season seven, let me know on twitter @VanVelding or  via Discord: https://ift.tt/3jVYoGL



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Monday, August 09, 2021

Interface

Unedited, slightly incoherent, and mostly redundant, The Beige and The Bold Solo Sessions are episodes where I run through a show all on my own.

I'm sorry, but I just don't know Ben Vereen and Madge Sinclair. This isn't a boast; it's a--conspicuous--hole in my pop culture knowledge. Like, my dad and I sit around and talk about actors in movies. I'm introducing him to Giancarlo Esposito. I don't know them that well. Ben Vereen is still acting and Madge Sinclair was in The Lion King and Look Who's Coming to Dinner. Not small roles.

I always feel like Geordi is being handled with kid gloves and doesn't come across with any real personality because of it. All "Interface" tells us is that he didn't spring fully-formed from Zeus' forehead. But knowing which two humans f--had sex to make him doesn't actually develop Geordi as a character. We don't really learn anything about him.

The Beige and The Bold is hosted on Anchor and is available on most podcasting platforms. New episodes are usually posted on Sunday nights at 9:00 PM CST. If you have Netflix and would like to be a guest host for an episode in season seven, let me know on twitter @VanVelding or via Discord: https://ift.tt/3jVYoGL



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Sunday, August 01, 2021

Liaisons

Unedited, slightly incoherent, and mostly redundant, The Beige and The Bold Solo Sessions are episodes where I run through a show all on my  own.

Picard is in a Geordi plot, which is mind-blowing to discover, and the intrigue sizzles like a superconductor on an Alaskan highway*. No one cares and nothing happens. Worf gets a win and sales of fun-size Mars bars and Hurricanes go up by 1%.

The actor I couldn't place was Eric Pierpoint. I thought I'd feel stupid when I looked it up, but I don't. He wasn't in the original movie, just the five TV movies and the one TV season of the Alien Nation franchise. I was going to make a "he's been in worse" joke, but I can't do Alien Nation dirty like that. 

The Beige and The Bold is hosted on Anchor and is available on most podcasting platforms. New episodes are usually posted on Sunday nights at 9:00 PM CST. If you have Netflix and would like to be a guest host for an episode in season seven, let me know on twitter @VanVelding or via Discord: https://discord.gg/Nw7Vf4Pkpn

*Yes, I know that would technically kind of sizzle as the highway pumps heat into the superconductor, but you get what I'm going for.



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Monday, July 26, 2021

Season Two Supplemental

Ignore what I say in the supplemental; it's our second season but Deep Space Nine's first. 

We talk a little bit about this season past, the future of characters and stories, and how likeable flawed characters have to be.

The future of Nine Deeps of Space is currently undecided, but regular episodes of The Beige and The Bold are starting today over there. https://anchor.fm/tbntb



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Descent, Pt II

I've turned the volume up on this episode so it plays at the same level as other audio on my system. I've always set the volume according to Audacity instead of from the playback of the exported episode, but I'm doing this now. So the episode might be louder than past episodes. Let me know if it's too loud.

Grymm and I talk about payoffs, Lore's choice of attire, and how this is a really underrated 2-parter in Trek history. Weirdly underrated.

The episode where Worf becomes a paraplegic is "Ethics." "Extreme Measures" is a season seven Deep Space Nine episode.

The Beige and The Bold is hosted on Anchor and is available on most podcasting platforms. New episodes are usually posted on Sunday nights at 9:00 PM CST. If you have Netflix and would like to be a guest host for an episode in season seven, let me know on twitter @VanVelding or via Discord: https://discord.gg/Nw7Vf4Pkpn



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Tuesday, July 20, 2021

In the Hands of the Prophets

We talk about a lot of stuff in this one. I think it's a good episode for the overarching story. It underutilizes Keiko a bit. I just don't think it or we know what it's really about.

Better than I remember, but not really 'good.'

Nine Deeps of Space is a Trekalong podcast that lets you watch Deep Space Nine along with us on Netflix. It updates every Sunday night at 10 PM CST. NDoS alternates with its partner series, The Beige and The Bold, which is about Star Trek: The Next Generation.



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Sunday, July 18, 2021

Enterprise One: A Worthy Civilization, Pt II

While we're waiting for the Deep Space Nine series, Nine Deeps of Space, to catch up, I'm sharing a series of reviews for Enterprise One. Enterprise One is a Star Trek series I worked on with Dr. Izixs. We hash out the stories, then I give reviews of them.

It breaks a bit and there are some plotholes, but it's a satisfying conclusion. I wish I could write why slowly enough that other people could read and get them, but let's try: 

It's good because it has S T A K E S and C O N S E Q U E N C E S. The universe isn't going to blow up and our characters don't let the "ends well" declare the rest of their actions "all well." We give up things to get other things and our characters change a bit, usually for the better, as result of all of it. Even Kira who maintains she did nothing wrong she lost, but doesn't recant the principles which made her fight. 

Regular episodes of The Beige and The Bold will return with "Descent,  Pt II" in three weeks' time, when Nine Deeps of Space has finished its   second season.



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Wednesday, July 14, 2021

Duet

We talk about...war crimes mostly. We crack jokes. About the war crimes, now that I think about it. It sounds bad, but you're going to laugh at those war crimes jokes.

It's also worse than "Progress." "Progress" had the moral complexity and messiness that becomes a strength of Deep Space Nine. Despite the twists and turns and great acting, "Duet" has the clean ending of an episodic TV show. It's--and secure your monocles--way closer to Star Trek: The Next Generation's wheelhouse than Deep Space Nine's.

The movie I was thinking about was 2016's Denial, which dramatized the events of the Irving v Penguin Books Ltd case.

Nine Deeps of Space is a Trekalong podcast that lets you watch Deep Space Nine along with us on Netflix. It updates every Sunday night at 10 PM CST. NDoS alternates with its partner series, The Beige and The Bold, which is about Star Trek: The Next Generation.



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Enterprise One: A Worthy Civilization, Pt I

While  we're waiting for the Deep Space Nine series, Nine Deeps of Space, to catch up, I'm sharing a series of reviews for Enterprise One. Enterprise One is a Star Trek series I worked on with Dr. Izixs. We hash out the stories, then I give reviews of them.

It's possible I have an ax to grind about people who have an axe to grind over the use of the word "discover"? I've got one. 

Last week was definitely the last of the good times before shit gets serious in the finale, but I like modern-day television's tendency to deliver big two parter season finales that give closure instead of awkward cliffhangers. Enterprise One is no exception.

...no, I haven't seen the finale of Loki. Was that important?

Regular episodes of The Beige and The Bold will return with "Descent,  Pt II" in two weeks' time, when Nine Deeps of Space has finished its second season.



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Wednesday, July 07, 2021

Dramatis Personae

It's not just a contagious, telepathic energy field; it's a contagious, telepathic energy field that's good at improv. It puts the fiction in science fiction. No one is good at improv (except for Star Trek: The Improvised Generation).

Odo lords his lack of frail, human feet over us, Kira makes a seduction attempt with martial law, and Commander Sisko buys a 3D printer. It's a good one, actually.

Also, Dax would have been great in Odo's place here, but what about Kira? O'Brien? Bashir?! Odo was probably the best choice, but it's such a one versus many episode that it's fun to think about.

Nine Deeps of Space is a Trekalong podcast that lets you watch Deep Space Nine along with us on Netflix. It updates every Sunday night at 10 PM CST. NDoS alternates with its partner series, The Beige and The Bold, which is about Star Trek: The Next Generation.



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Enterprise One: The Week of Hell

While we're waiting for the Deep Space Nine series, Nine Deeps of Space, to catch up, I'm sharing a series of reviews for Enterprise One.  Enterprise One is a Star Trek series I worked on with Dr. Izixs. We hash  out the stories, then I give reviews of them.

It's basically safe for work, but the technology of being safe for work while being not safe for work has come a looong way. Given that half the people who've seen my genitals in the past four years worked for the TSA, I feel it naturally dovetails with the message of security theater.

"Not bad" is the best I can give it, due to its loose focus and broad set of characters. 

Regular episodes of The Beige and The Bold will return with "Descent, Pt II" in three weeks' time, when Nine Deeps of Space has finished its  second season.



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Tuesday, July 06, 2021

The Forsaken

The B-Plot outshines the A-Plot again as we study Odo, Lwaxana Troi, and what it is to need other people.

That Babylon 5 episode came out a year after this one, but it's still way better. Babylon 5 lacks a lot of DS9's subtlety and nuance, but it fucks around far less. 

I can't find a good source for the charges of plagiarism, so here's the highest honor I can confer on this conflict: a grudge-match.com fight from the dawn of the internet: http://www.grudge-match.com/History/ds9-babylon5.shtml

Nine Deeps of Space is a Trekalong podcast that lets you watch Deep Space Nine along with us on Netflix. It updates every Sunday night at 10  PM CST. NDoS alternates with its partner series, The Beige and The  Bold, which is about Star Trek: The Next Generation.



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Enterprise One: 31 Corpses

While we're waiting for the Deep Space Nine series, Nine Deeps of Space, to catch up, I'm sharing a series of reviews for Enterprise One.  Enterprise One is a Star Trek series I worked on with Dr. Izixs. We hash out the stories, then I give reviews of them.

Wow.

I didn't watch a lot of Voyager, but this is a gangbusters Janeway and Tuvok episode and Kirk and Worf episode and even an Odo episode little bit and it manages all of that by having the arcs of each of those characters intersect the arc of the others. 

It's a Section 31 episode I don't hate. That's the highest praise I can confer on an episode of Star Trek.

Regular episodes of The Beige and The Bold will return with "Descent, Pt II" in three weeks' time, when Nine Deeps of Space has finished its second season.



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Monday, July 05, 2021

If Wishes Were Horses

To quote a great man, "Nothing good happened here today! None was entertained, nothing was achieved, and no child's life was saved. Everything's going to go on as normal and babies are sometimes going to die and no one fucking cares!"

"If Wishes Were Horses" happened and it only happens again when you want it to. Think about that.

Nine Deeps of Space is a Trekalong podcast that lets you watch Deep Space Nine along with us on Netflix. It updates every Sunday night at 10  PM CST. NDoS alternates with its partner series, The Beige and The  Bold, which is about Star Trek: The Next Generation.



source https://anchor.fm/ndos/episodes/If-Wishes-Were-Horses-e14094k

Enterprise One: Moral Peril

While  we're waiting for the Deep Space Nine series, Nine Deeps of Space, to catch up, I'm sharing a series of reviews for Enterprise One.  Enterprise One is a Star Trek series I worked on with Dr. Izixs. We hash out the stories, then I give reviews of them.

This one is about Kes and the Temporal Cold War and it's just good teevee.

Regular episodes of The Beige and The Bold will return with "Descent,   Pt II" in four weeks' time, when Nine Deeps of Space has finished its second season.



source https://anchor.fm/tbntb/episodes/Enterprise-One-Moral-Peril-e1406tv

Monday, June 14, 2021

Progress

"Are some main characters a little more main characters than others?" Is a big question, and one I cannot answer in season one.

We will have to see together, friends.

I usually ask a question here to prompt engagement, but this isn't really a questiony episode. It's what Game of Thrones thinks its being when it's showing us boobs and gore; a survey of hard realities seen through the eyes of our main characters.

'nuff said.

Nine Deeps of Space is a Trekalong podcast that lets you watch Deep  Space Nine along with us on Netflix. It updates every Sunday night at 10  PM CST. NDoS alternates with its partner series, The Beige and The Bold, which is about Star Trek: The Next Generation.



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Sunday, June 13, 2021

Enterprise One: The Dhohurl Opportunity

While we're waiting for the Deep Space Nine series, Nine Deeps of Space, to catch up, I'm sharing a series of reviews for Enterprise One. Enterprise One is a Star Trek series I worked on with Dr. Izixs. We hash out the stories, then I give reviews of them.

It's another Prime Directive episode, but if you promise not to tell anyone, it's also about privilege and systemic problems. It's an Uhura-heavy episode--finally--and it's also B'Elanna Torres-heavy episode. I mean, Picard is in there too, and it undercuts Star Trek's tendency to put him in a pedestal. And it does that without making Picard look like an idiot.

I mean, you could take Picard off of a pedestal while making him look like a decrepit idiot, but I don't see why you could do that when you could understand flaws in his character that make him a reasonable person who is just wrong sometimes.

Who would be so stupid though?

Regular episodes of The Beige and The Bold will return with "Descent,  Pt II" in seven weeks' time, when Nine Deeps of Space has finished its second season.



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Monday, June 07, 2021

The Storyteller

It's about the limitations of Bajoran territorial law. Bajor has clans I guess. Also villages threatened by monsters. I usually quote twenty thousand years as the age of Bajoran culture. That's actually the age of the lost city of B'hala. Bajoran culture is cited as being five hundred thousand years old.

I appreciate an episode about the diversity and nuance of Bajoran culture. But 500,000 years seems like a lot to convey when Bajorans...I'll talk about it in season three.

But did The Sirah really plan for things to shake out this way or did he sincerely believe some higher force (The Prophets) wanted O'Brien to stick around? Was it the will of The Prophets that O'Brien failed and that the village would be destroyed? Did Miles miss his true calling in life as a guy who cheerleads a Bajoran village once per year?

Nine Deeps of Space is a Trekalong podcast that lets you watch Deep Space Nine along with us on Netflix. It updates every Sunday night at 10 PM CST. NDoS alternates with its partner series, The Beige and The Bold, which is about Star Trek: The Next Generation.



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Enterprise One: The Tale of The Enterprise and L'morte de Legend

While we're waiting for the Deep Space Nine series, Nine Deeps of Space, to catch up, I'm sharing a series of reviews for Enterprise One. Enterprise  One is a Star Trek series I worked on with Dr. Izixs. We hash out the stories, then I give reviews of them.

Woof. I guess if you're going to make a Star Trek fanfiction series, you've got to make a bad episode, and TToTEaLdL is one of those. When I'm making TBnTB, I can usually see what an episode was trying to do, but I'm at a loss here. I mean, I know this episode was trying to do an Arthurian Myth episode, but the goal of anything else in this 45 minutes of Star Trek mashed into King Arthur's Court like two action figures rammed together is a mystery to me. 

Regarding the execution of Spirk: Not gay enough.

Regular episodes of The Beige and The Bold will return with "Descent, Pt II" in eight weeks' time, when Nine Deeps of Space has finished its second season.



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Sunday, June 06, 2021

Battle Lines

I've been vocal that I don't care about "universe will change forever" type of events because TNG episodes like "The Chase" and "Unnatural Selection" tell us none of it will matter. Canon in general doesn't matter to me unless I know creators care about canon. It's all the difference between "Rick and Morty" and "The Good Place."

So I don't even like "Battle Lines" for it's implications for the setting. At this point, we don't know if DS9 is any different from TNG. What matters is the human story. Not the story about Mike from Breaking Bad in a well-worn story about retribution. Not the story about a leader of a religion based on prophecy being pretty good at prophecy. But about Kira learning how to forgive herself for learning how to survive and fight.

For veteran viewers; is Kit right? Are some DS9 main characters more "main" than others?

Nine Deeps of Space is a Trekalong podcast that lets you watch Deep Space Nine along with us on Netflix. It updates every other Sunday night at 10 PM CST. NDoS alternates with its partner series, The Beige and The Bold, which is about Star Trek: The Next Generation.



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Enterprise One: Lingering Compassion and the Art of Death

While we're waiting for the Deep Space Nine series, Nine Deeps of Space, to catch up, I'm sharing a series of reviews for Enterprise One. Enterprise  One is a Star Trek series I worked on with Dr. Izixs. We hash out the stories, then I give reviews of them.

It's about institutional incompetence and a culture based on doing one thing, and that thing isn't making peoples' lives better. It's obvious and not too deep and there's furrows in the story that separate things. It FEELS like an episode I guess, and that's a bit disappointing for a Kira-heavy episode that also features the trio of Geordi, Data, and Wesley. 

Regular episodes of The Beige and The Bold will return with "Descent, Pt II" in eight weeks' time, when Nine Deeps of Space has finished its second season.



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Sunday, May 23, 2021

Vortex

We're talking about jumpsuit padding, shapeshifter leather, and putting Siri in a runabout this week as hardened investigator and goo of the world Odo is taken in by an alien who knows nothing about anything.

Also, this Odo/Quark tension is getting palpable in the rewatch. I get it now, Quodo shippers. You are seen.

I guess my final read on Crodin is that he was doing all these criminal things for his daughter. That's good. But maybe I'm irrationally judgey over how comfortable he is with those criminal things. Committing a hold-up of strangers for a ship is reasonable, but he's really good at lying, he projects that he's comfortable with murder, and he's a really good liar. Like really good. Like Nathan Lane in The Producers telling him how good he is at lying. Am I being too harsh?

Nine Deeps of Space is a Trekalong podcast that lets you watch Deep Space Nine along with us on Netflix. It updates every other Sunday night at 10 PM CST. NDoS alternates with its partner series, The Beige and The Bold, which is about Star Trek: The Next Generation.



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Enterprise One: Pure Ambition

While we're waiting for the Deep Space Nine series, Nine Deeps of Space, to catch up, I'm sharing a series of reviews for Enterprise One. Enterprise One is a Star Trek series I worked on with Dr. Izixs. We hash out the stories, then I give reviews of them.

Pure Ambition is the Doctor Bashir storyline worked backwards. The dramatic revelation about his genetic history is well-established except for some dialog and then we let his character speak out for that. Using one individual minority's character as a model for that entire morality is dicey, but that's kind of the point of the story. 

Sure, Starbase 47 was fun, but I feel like Pure Ambition is the first episode that's really good. But it features Tom friggin' Paris, so even odds there's something wrong with me.

Regular episodes of The Beige and The Bold will return with "Descent,   Pt II" in ten weeks' time, when Nine Deeps of Space has finished its   second season.



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Monday, May 17, 2021

The Nagus

This one took a bit longer because I did some additional editing work on it.

Welcome to our apolitical show where the SOCIALIST actor mocks the RICH, LIBERTARIAN FATCATS of our day. We have NO strong feelings about Jordan Peterson!

But honestly, Zek is a pretty canny operator in this one. The downfall of many leaders is the issue of succession and the ability of nepotistic transfers of power confer the skills of earning power to someone born into it. Despite the fact that it goes over the top more than doomed regiments in the Somme, it has a great B-story and tells us a lot about The Ferengi?

Is it in the middle of Deep Space Nine's annual (sometimes more than annual) Ferengi episodes? There's some wild swings in there and I answered off the cuff. Is it really four of seven (eight?).

Nine Deeps of Space is a Trekalong podcast that lets you watch Deep Space Nine along with us on Netflix. It updates every other Sunday night at 10 PM CST. NDoS alternates with its partner series, The Beige and The Bold, which is about Star Trek: The Next Generation.



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Enterprise One: Starbase 47

While we're waiting for the Deep Space Nine series, Nine Deeps of Space, to catch up, I'm sharing a series of reviews for Enterprise One. Enterprise  One is a Star Trek series I worked on with Dr. Izixs. We hash out the stories, then I give reviews of them.

Starbase 47 is the home port story I've been wanting to make for a long time. Most of the time, home port is Earth or Deep Space Nine and those huge, fuckoff starbases need to be for something. So we get that and a big establishing sequence that answers questions about everyone's families and give some gratuitous nods to canon.

It's also our first Kirk episode and he gets to jam on a mystery with Odo that involves Tellaries and Federation civilians. Admiral Ross is still an idiot. It's a great time.

Regular episodes of The Beige and The Bold will return with "Descent,  Pt II" in ten weeks' time, when Nine Deeps of Space has finished its  second season.



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Tuesday, May 11, 2021

Enterprise One: We Unwinding

While we're waiting for the Deep Space Nine series, Nine Deeps of  Space, to catch up, I'm sharing a series of reviews for Enterprise One. Enterprise One is a Star Trek series I worked on with Dr. Izixs. We hash out the stories, then I give reviews of them.

We Unwinding is about Nog, because it's his introduction to the series. What happens when you land a young Ferengi Starfleet officer on a pre-contact planet for a year? The question is: "How do you undo what happens when you land a young Ferengi Starfleet officer on a pre-contact planet for a year?"

Regular episodes of The Beige and The Bold will return with "Descent, Pt II" in ten weeks' time, when Nine Deeps of Space has finished its second season.



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Monday, May 03, 2021

Move Along Home

It's The Heartbreaker. "Move Along Home" broke Derek; it's a show that can break a man. So I'm happy that Kit and I can rip on it for 45 minutes because it's SO BAD!

So come along with us as we talk Mousetrap (and other board games), Armin Shimmerman's acting, and whatever accent Lt. Primmin is affecting (HE IS NOT SOUTHERN!). 

Nine Deeps of Space is a Trekalong podcast that lets you watch Deep  Space Nine along with us on Netflix. It updates every other Sunday night  at 10 PM CST. NDoS alternates with its partner series, The Beige and  The Bold, which is about Star Trek: The Next Generation.



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Sunday, May 02, 2021

Enterprise One: Ending Yesterday

While we're waiting for the Deep Space Nine series, Nine Deeps of Space, to catch up, I'm sharing a series of reviews for Enterprise One. Enterprise One is a Star Trek series I worked on with Dr. Izixs. We hash out the stories, then I give reviews of them.

Ending Yesterday is a pilot and it plays with the possibilities at hand before serving up our status quo. Everyone from The Original Series, The Next Generation, Deep Space Nine, and Voyager is alive and serving on Kirk's Enterprise. We try out a few configurations through our plot device de jour and then learn the immutable lesson that, wherever you go, there you are.

Regular episodes of The Beige and The Bold will return with "Descent, Pt II" in eleven weeks' time, when Nine Deeps of Space has finished its second season.




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Tuesday, April 27, 2021

The Passenger

We get into it pretty quickly. There are a lot of questions. Well, one question, "Who is Vantika?"

It's answered in the teaser, but we also get to see Odo act out and talk a bit about Sisko doing admin. So there's a lot happening here.

Also, Lt Primmin is not a Southerner! This is a point of contention!

Nine Deeps of Space is a Trekalong podcast that lets you watch Deep Space Nine along with us on Netflix. It updates every other Sunday night at 10 PM CST. NDoS alternates with its partner series, The Beige and The Bold, which is about Star Trek: The Next Generation.




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Descent, Pt I

I'm back with Grym and we're going over the Season 6 cliffhanger, "Descent, Pt I." I guess that's not really a spoiler if the name is "Part I." And if the last three season finales were also cliffhangers. What are we going to do; go back to clip shows to close out the season?

Anyway, we see Star Trek doing something really interesting with the Borg; allowing them to change and grow, becoming a new threat and a vehicle to explore human questions. Well, we haven't gotten to all that yet. We're just intrigued by the new thing we're doing with the Borg.

THIS shovel? It's, uh, certainly not here to put this interesting thing we're doing with the Borg into a shallow grave in a few years as this franchise commits to shortpacking everything to more easily sell it as individually-priced slivers of nostalgia. That's not even a Picard burn; it's a First Contact burn.

The Beige and The Bold is hosted on Anchor and is available on most podcasting platforms. New episodes are usually posted on Sunday nights at 9:00 PM CST.



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Sunday, April 18, 2021

Dax

Jadzia Dax is on trial for the, alleged, crimes committed by Kurzon Dax and we spend a plurality of our time discussing Trill probate law and an app called Spotz that lets you hire Trill to point at other Trill. So it's a good one. What can we say?

We can say that your parents are probably still having sex and once the sentient slug inside of you is put into a new, younger host body, that slug will have parents-having-sex knowledge for each life you've lived...except you're the parents!

Moore's Law was from 1965, not the 70's so I will continue to make jokes at Trek's expense over their stupid, stupid data storage solutions.

Because of the unplanned break, I'll be doubling up and putting new episodes up until we're squaresies, which should be around "The Nagus."

Nine Deeps of Space is a Trekalong podcast that lets you watch Deep Space Nine along with us on Netflix. It updates every other Sunday night at 10 PM CST. NDoS alternates with its partner series, The Beige and The Bold, which is about Star Trek: The Next Generation.



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Timescape

Anna's back and we're talking about solid character episode with minimal ghosts "Timescape."

It's got runabouts! And time travel!

There's not too much to say about this one. We don't have a deep concept or a tightly-constructed mystery. Timey-wimey stuff happens, but we have fun anyway.

I mean that time; it sure is subjective, right?

I've been out a few weeks due to internet problems, so I'll be posting a bit to make up for it. But that's just the end of season six before we go into a bit of a holding pattern until Deep Space Nine series, Nine Deeps of Space catches up. I'll be posting some Enterprise One stuff, but I've got a poll up on twitter as to which Enterprise One stuff you want to hear in the interim. https://twitter.com/VanVelding/status/1383947120684589060

The Beige and The Bold is hosted on Anchor and is available on most podcasting platforms. New episodes are usually posted on Sunday nights at 9:00 PM CST.



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Tuesday, April 06, 2021

Q-Less

There's so many things wrong with this episode--actually, just the one thing wrong. The all-powerful being harassing his powerless ex without a moral core, lesson learned, or any point to it really except for how we're supposed to find the cruelty funny. 

Also, there's a sci-fi "thing" that's so token I feel you could lose it at Quark's dabo table.

The Skeleton War was 2014, not 2012. I apologize to all veterans of the Skeleton War and thank you for your service.

Nine Deeps of Space is a Trekalong podcast that lets you watch Deep Space Nine along with us on Netflix. It updates every other Sunday night at 10 PM CST. NDoS alternates with its partner series, The Beige and The Bold, which is about Star Trek: The Next Generation.



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Sunday, March 14, 2021

Second Chances

More than any other episode, this one makes me think about the title of this series. Second Chances is bold in that they keep Riker around and don't write him off as some kind of alien of the week. It's pretty beige in that they thought about shaking up the status quo without really changing their cast but didn't for what are essentially commercial reasons.

So Will Riker goes on a shelf simply because people want him around, but don't particularly care if anything--y'know--GOOD is done with him. The man lives in a glass case watching any additional character development passing him by.

In the beginning of Season 4, I pitched the idea of "Captain Riker, Ambassador Picard," imagining how season four would look if after Picard's assimilation by the Borg, Riker became the captain and Picard became an ambassador at large on the Enterprise. 

In that same spirit, I'm going to pitch "Chief of Operations Thomas Riker" for some of the episode we have coming up. How will future episodes change if Thomas Riker takes over as Chief of Operations and Data becomes First Officer of the Enterprise? Will anything change? Will we have additional storylines to think of? We'll see.

The Beige and The Bold is hosted on Anchor and is available on most podcasting platforms. New episodes are usually posted on Sunday nights at 9:00 PM CST.



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Thursday, March 11, 2021

Captive Pursuit

It's our first O'Brien episode. No, he doesn't get tortured. Why would you even ask that?

"Captive Pursuit" captures a lot of early Deep Space Nine. There's a lot of TNG's mystery stories, but with more action. The characters are actual characters, but without their throughlines or an ungrayed moral lesson, it can feel pointless. In the series' urgent attempts to ingratiate itself with fans, like including the Duras sisters a few weeks ago and Q next week, it feels like it's ignoring the strengths of Star Trek and its own strengths.

I do wonder how TNG, TOS, Voyager, or even Discovery would have handled an episode like Captive Pursuit.

Nine Deeps of Space is a Trekalong podcast that lets you watch Deep Space Nine along with us on Netflix. It updates every other Sunday night at 10 PM CST. NDoS alternates with its partner series, The Beige and The Bold, which is about Star Trek: The Next Generation.



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Monday, March 01, 2021

Suspicions

It's a pretty cool Doctor Crusher story that effectively packs a lot into it. Remember how rushed "The Chase" was? I feel like "Suspicions" moves at a similar pace but uses a framing device to make it actually work.

It's too bad we never see the scientists again, but who knows? Maybe this technology will be useful again some day.

I want to thank this week's and last week's guest Jack, who was a lot of fun to work with. The Beige and The Bold is hosted on Anchor and is available on most  podcasting platforms. New episodes are usually posted on Sunday nights  at 9:00 PM CST.



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Saturday, February 27, 2021

Babel

So we've moved past the humor/horror of "isn't this happening now, lol," TV logic, and into the forgetting references. Titus Andronicus was the Shakespeare play. The Scrubs episode was Season 5, Episode 12 "My Cabbage."

DS9, like its predecessor, features officers who know how to make a scene dramatic. Starfleet sends out surveys for this kind of thing.

I feel like we don't have a big idea here. Things happen and while it's a good ensemble episode that's closer to mediocre than bad, I just don't see the point of it. It illustrates how people can be selfish in a crisis, but the story doesn't really care about that; it just works around it.

Nine Deeps of Space is a Trekalong podcast that lets you watch Deep Space Nine along with us on Netflix. It updates every other Sunday night at 10 PM CST. NDoS alternates with its partner series, The Beige and The Bold, which is about Star Trek: The Next Generation.



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Sunday, February 14, 2021

Frame of Mind

It's all corrections for this one. That's boring, so imagine reading this in Robert Stack's Unsolved Mysteries voice.

  • My reference to Supernatural actor Jensen Ackles' constantly deepening voice was abandoned early in the episode, but that happened, and it was weird.
  • It's Paramount+, not CBS All-Access anymore.
  • I have seen a Philip K. Dick book including the Philip K. Dick story "We Can Remember It for You Wholesale." Haven't read it.
  • Pico de gallo is the chopped onion, tomato, and pepper thing. There is no corn in it.
  • That Babylon 5 episode was "A View from the Gallery," not "A View from Downbelow."

The Beige and The Bold is hosted on Anchor and is available on most podcasting platforms. New episodes are usually posted on Sunday nights at 9:00 PM CST.



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Monday, February 08, 2021

Past Prologue

In this one we're talking about the big, red analog button in every runabout, Klingon sartorial choices, and how effectively Commander Sisko can recap Star Trek: The Next Generation episodes. We also meet a new guy named...Farak or something. I don't think a tailor will be too important to our series going forward.

I guess the lesson here is that there's no unity without change? That it's not worth owning your nation wholly if you've burnt it to the ground to get that? Maybe it's a dick move to hold the people you're trying to benefit hostage as part of your vigilante actions? 

Nine Deeps of Space is a Trekalong podcast that lets you watch Deep Space Nine along with us on Netflix. It updates every other Sunday night at 10 PM CST. NDoS alternates with its partner series, The Beige and The Bold, which is about Star Trek: The Next Generation.



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Wednesday, February 03, 2021

Lessons

For a pretty sedate episode, we've got a lot going on here. Folks kid a lot about TNG being more about administrative issues instead of high-stakes space action, and Lessons is definitely that. It focuses on one character, Picard, and it's bizarre we don't even get a character arc. It's packed with stuff, but stuff that doesn't seem to take us anywhere in the end.

It might be the worst good episode of the series. Is that why no one talks about this episode ever?

My guest this week is Anna, who was a joy to record with.

The Beige and The Bold is hosted on Anchor and is available on most podcasting platforms. New episodes are usually posted on Sunday nights at 9:00 PM CST.



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Sunday, January 24, 2021

A Man Alone

I admit, I misremembered the climax a bit, both this time and last time. It's an Odo episode which I feel doesn't tell us too much about Odo and doesn't know how to get where it wants to be. All of our side stories are good; Keiko wants to be useful, Sisko and Dax are adjusting to their new relationship, and Bashir continues to be Bashir. 

The first few episodes of DS9 try to focus on individual characters like Sisko, Odo, Kira, O'Brien, Dax, Quark, and Bashir, but if you're new to the series, what would you if you had an episode to tell us about those characters? 

Nine Deeps of Space is a Trekalong podcast that lets you watch Deep Space Nine along with us on Netflix. It updates every other Sunday night at 10 PM CST. NDoS alternates with its partner series, The Beige and The Bold, which is about Star Trek: The Next Generation.



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Monday, January 18, 2021

The Chase

Unedited, slightly incoherent, and mostly redundant, The Beige and The Bold Solo Sessions are episodes where I run through a show all on my own.

The Chase is one of those episodes we all just collectively forget. Not because its epicly bad, but because it's epicly mediocre. I'm already forgetting it. It's an episode that defies being written to media. Witnessing Star Trek improv every time this episode gets queued would be more memorable than actually watching it again.

You might recognize the tragically mis-used Norman Lloyd as Doctor Daniel Auschlander from St. Elsewhere, which is a solid danged series. He does good work with Galen, what there is of Galen anyway. The dude is 106 as of posting. Not Galen. Galen is dead.

Questions of canon have been on my mind lately. Do we ignore this episode because it's directly contradicted by later Star Trek? I mean, we-go-back-to-the-origins-of-life-on-Earth-and-do-not-see-Salome-Jens contradicted. It gets hard canceled. In THIS VERY SERIES. Do we ignore the episode or just bad (relevant) parts of it?

The Beige and The Bold is hosted on Anchor and is available on most podcasting platforms. New episodes are usually posted on Sunday nights  at 9:00 PM CST.



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Sunday, January 10, 2021

Emissary

We're back with a new co-host, Kit, who has seen some TNG but is new to DS9. Welcome to season two of Nine Deeps of Space.

It's a good episode that never gets old and I can confirm that seeing it with fresh eyes always gives a new insight. Did The Prophets know what they were doing? Maybe the better question is...did they have done how they were because Sisko...good?

I hate temporal mechanics.

Vasquez was played by Jenette Goldstein, but Kit was thinking of Michelle Rodriguez. I have no idea who the heck I was thinking of. Maybe Rosie Perez, but I've only ever seen her Pineapple Express.

In that Deep Space Nine is going to focus more on character and setting, does it give too much up in terms of having a clear morality behind it? I mean, modern television has been described as nihilistic, and DS9 has been called a prototype of modern television, so is DS9...kind of nihilistic?

Nine Deeps of Space is a Trekalong podcast that lets you watch Deep Space Nine along with us on Netflix. It updates every other Sunday night at 10 PM CST. NDoS alternates with its partner series, The Beige and The Bold, which is about Star Trek: The Next Generation.



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Tuesday, January 05, 2021

Rightful Heir

Worf meets Klingon Jesus, who's changed a lot since he fought Kirk and Abraham Lincoln on the rock guy planet. The episode is better than I remembered and I'm glad I could watch it with Grym, who is a fan of the Klingons. 

"Rightful Heir" is a cool combination of science, religion, and Klingon politics. Does Trek even handle religion this well again until Deep Space Nine?

My guest this week is Grym, who doesn't have a project he's working on, but who loves Wyrd Games' Malifaux. 

The Beige and The Bold is hosted on Anchor and is available on most podcasting platforms. New episodes are usually posted on Sunday nights at 9:00 PM CST.



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