Tuesday, October 20, 2015

I Am A River Unto My People

Unless you've already seen it, of course.

I think Luke being the bad guy is a big fake-out, but it's a good fake out. I mean, take the betrayal of Vader being a whiny teenager and turn it around so in ten years you're watching the original trilogy and know Luke will be some asshole with an antichrist lightsaber some day and you can quickly imagine why Luke isn't Kylo Ren.

He is gonna be a force ghost by the third movie though.


SkilTao said...

I have not seen that classic.

Star Wars VII trailers keep leaving me cold... this clever subterfuge you're suggesting, if it's deliberate on the movie-makers' part, then that's the first encouraging thought I've heard on this trilogy in I don't know how long.

Although, if Kylo Ren somehow turned out to be Mark Hamill reprising The Joker from the Batman cartoon, that would not be unwelcome news either.

VanVelding said...

I've seen a lot of people hoping he's the Joker, which I guess says something.

Also, the "let it in" dialog likens the awakening of The Force to Star Wars itself, as something that's been gone since Return of the Jedi and is finally coming back.

SkilTao said...

Eh... you're right, and kudos to whoever assembled the trailer for accomplishing that; but that means that dialogue is basically telling me, the viewer, to give the movie a chance, and that rubs me the wrong way. Like, if the movie wants to distance itself from the try-hard prequel trilogy, then it shouldn't be talking like a try-hard itself.

Not that I'm totally without hope- although every line of dialogue sounds straightforward in the trailer, I think they all have room to become more complex in the movie itself.

Also: I only just now realized that "The Force Awakens" is the actual title. Better than the prequel titles, I suppose.

VanVelding said...

The sleeping force is how they're going to explain nothing of consequence happening in the past...thirty-two years?

SkilTao said...

I was hoping Thrawn would've happened, but I guess that works too.

VanVelding said...

Don't know much about Thrawn, but I feel like he's one part of the EU I'm really missing out on.

SkilTao said...

I don't know much about him either (I can't remember if I've even read any of the Thrawn books); all I meant was, seems like Empire Remnants would've been doing things of consequence.