Thursday, July 23, 2015

17 to 01: A Taste of Armageddon

One of the most iconic episodes. Derek and I spend so long talking about whether Kirk seduces Mea 3 or not. I'm still leaning towards not.

I was thinking Thomas "Stonewall" Jackson.

Also, I want to note that as of today, 17 to 01 is available on iTunes. It updates Thursdays at 0100 hrs and Friday nights at 8:30 PM ET / 9:30 CT. It's starting at "The Cage," so it'll take a while to catch up.


SkilTao said...

That thing about people giving everybody in a family the exact same name? That's a real life thing which causes problems like you might expect.

I like that the Federation is approaching this planet is to put a treaty port on the planet; it's a nice touch that helps establish the Federation's place in the universe. And potential silliness of sonic disruptors aside, I like that the writers bother to establish that the weapons of other civilizations don't always operate on the same principles as the Federation's phasers. (Even if it's just cheaper on the production budget.)

I very much agree about how good Spock's line is, and how it highlights an important aspect of how discussions work.

Scotty realizing the voice message is forged I think points to not just his technical expertise, but is also an early sign of how protective he is (or gets) about the Enterprise.

I feel like the Enterprise operates by RPG-ish rules: you can't start your voyage with any "General Orders" or "Standard Procedures," but you are allowed to create one (and only one) after every adventure.

I think it's thematic to the episode that we never get closer to the enemy than flashes of light on a computer screen.

Y'know, hearing you talk about Spock, and then about the Ambassador doing an about-face, it strikes me that pretty much every single person in this episode has their priorities very clearly sorted.

Kirk is the villain, setting up war between two treaty nations? You could put him behind glass? Kirk = Benedict Cumberkhan!

Meta-comment: you keep the discussion in this ep pretty well focused. Preparation and the richness of the ep no doubt contribute, but running the podcast in the format you guys do seems like it helps hone... logic parsing, theme discernment, topic management ...whatever that genre of skills is called.

VanVelding said...

I don't doubt any stupid human naming conventions.

Both Scotty and Spock are at their very finest in this episode. Spock being logical and sassy and Scotty being whip-smart and utterly steadfast.

I guess the lack of Vendikans does support the cold war happening. I hadn't thought about it that way.

Shatner would've made a much better Khan than Bumblebee Cumbercue.

I also don't know what those skill are called. We are green as hell at this and I never expected us to lose as much shittiness as we have over the last six months.