Thursday, February 19, 2015

17 to 01: The Man Trap


We talk about Kirk's respect for women, Starfleet as a military/academic organization, and the many hobbies of Starfleet officers.

4 comments:

SkilTao said...

"The Man Trap" already? "Mudd's Women" and "The Enemy Within" too disappointing for commentary?

Starfleet organization: it's like if the military became a small subset of NASA instead of (practically) vice-versa. (I'm sure I'm lifting that explanation from something you've previously said on the topic.) Not sure I agree that the military style (circa minute 13) is just Spock's style; with their missions as risky as they are, it makes sense to adopt a military style for decision making.

Leadership lessons: very impressed when shows incorporate these in a digestible fashion. I liked Mission Genesis (Saturday morning show whence came Nicole de Boer) for that reason.

...shouldn't the transporter have warned them that the alien was alien? Or does that level of precision not exist yet.

Uhura's name: I know people, in real life, who only had one name. (Not that I believe it's culturally accurate to Swahilis, nor that Star Trek was intentionally aiming for this extra bit of cultural diversity.)

...these hallways are really wide. Are TNG's hallways that wide?

Doing a good job of scaring Jim Kirk: the impression I got was that you (Jim Kirk) can't trust untrained people (the scrubby guy) not to screw up (kill you when they only mean to scare you).

NEVER SEEN A STAR TREK PARODY?

Galaxy Quest: a friend of mine saw Shatner at a convention this past week, and it would seem that he has not endured the convention circuit and his later career as triumphantly as Galaxy Quest portrays.

I like the small research teams. On one hand shows how easy interstellar travel is, and on the other how enterprising human space farers are.

VanVelding said...

"Mudd's Women" and "The Enemy Within" had a recording thing where it was just my voice. I was fine with it, but Derek had some reservations. ;)

We're planning on re-recording them next weekend.

I never actually made the NASA connection. That might be a better way for me to explain it.

Transporters? I dunno. I think TNG made up bio-filters to make some of their plots go and everyone else later ignored them for the same reasons.

It's certainly reasonable to assume that Uhura had only one name, but without knowing anything more about her vaguely defined culture it's not certain whether it's that or negligence.

Maybe there's a script somewhere that says "Uhura (Just Uhura)" or something. I certainly don't know.

I think that TNG had slightly narrower hallways. I also assumed theirs were somewhat modular, so you could move the walls out and make certain shots. I need to look into that.

I was surprised he hadn't seen one as well. I took a quick look around eBay to see if anyone was selling a bootleg Star Trek parody compilation, but came up with nothing. The alternative is trawling YouTube and that would be a big time investment (so many audio tracks to edit!).

Well, Jason Nesmith was in his forties(?) while Shatner is in his eighties. I'm surprised he can still make it to conventions at all.

Yeah, that's a good way to look at it with the science teams.

SkilTao said...

I've not looked too deeply into the production side of Star Trek; that's been a very interesting side of your commentaries so far.

Fair point with Nesmith.

No need to trawl youtube - if Derek's seen Futurama, then he's seen Star Trek. (Keep the Space Bees episode in mind when you start ST:TAS.)

VanVelding said...

We're still on the fence with TAS. "The Slaver Weapon" and "The Jihad" were both pretty good & we could probably cover all them in 5 weeks, but he's gunshy so I might have to make it a survey course.