Lessons

For a pretty sedate episode, we've got a lot going on here. Folks kid a lot about TNG being more about administrative issues instead of high-stakes space action, and Lessons is definitely that. It focuses on one character, Picard, and it's bizarre we don't even get a character arc. It's packed with stuff, but stuff that doesn't seem to take us anywhere in the end.

It might be the worst good episode of the series. Is that why no one talks about this episode ever?

My guest this week is Anna, who was a joy to record with.

The Beige and The Bold is hosted on Anchor and is available on most podcasting platforms. New episodes are usually posted on Sunday nights at 9:00 PM CST.

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A Man Alone

I admit, I misremembered the climax a bit, both this time and last time. It's an Odo episode which I feel doesn't tell us too much about Odo and doesn't know how to get where it wants to be. All of our side stories are good; Keiko wants to be useful, Sisko and Dax are adjusting to their new relationship, and Bashir continues to be Bashir. 

The first few episodes of DS9 try to focus on individual characters like Sisko, Odo, Kira, O'Brien, Dax, Quark, and Bashir, but if you're new to the series, what would you if you had an episode to tell us about those characters? 

Nine Deeps of Space is a Trekalong podcast that lets you watch Deep Space Nine along with us on Netflix. It updates every other Sunday night at 10 PM CST. NDoS alternates with its partner series, The Beige and The Bold, which is about Star Trek: The Next Generation.

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The Chase

Unedited, slightly incoherent, and mostly redundant, The Beige and The Bold Solo Sessions are episodes where I run through a show all on my own.

The Chase is one of those episodes we all just collectively forget. Not because its epicly bad, but because it's epicly mediocre. I'm already forgetting it. It's an episode that defies being written to media. Witnessing Star Trek improv every time this episode gets queued would be more memorable than actually watching it again.

You might recognize the tragically mis-used Norman Lloyd as Doctor Daniel Auschlander from St. Elsewhere, which is a solid danged series. He does good work with Galen, what there is of Galen anyway. The dude is 106 as of posting. Not Galen. Galen is dead.

Questions of canon have been on my mind lately. Do we ignore this episode because it's directly contradicted by later Star Trek? I mean, we-go-back-to-the-origins-of-life-on-Earth-and-do-not-see-Salome-Jens contradicted. It gets hard canceled. In THIS VERY SERIES. Do we ignore the episode or just bad (relevant) parts of it?

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Emissary

We're back with a new co-host, Kit, who has seen some TNG but is new to DS9. Welcome to season two of Nine Deeps of Space.

It's a good episode that never gets old and I can confirm that seeing it with fresh eyes always gives a new insight. Did The Prophets know what they were doing? Maybe the better question is...did they have done how they were because Sisko...good?

I hate temporal mechanics.

Vasquez was played by Jenette Goldstein, but Kit was thinking of Michelle Rodriguez. I have no idea who the heck I was thinking of. Maybe Rosie Perez, but I've only ever seen her Pineapple Express.

In that Deep Space Nine is going to focus more on character and setting, does it give too much up in terms of having a clear morality behind it? I mean, modern television has been described as nihilistic, and DS9 has been called a prototype of modern television, so is DS9...kind of nihilistic?

Nine Deeps of Space is a Trekalong podcast that lets you watch Deep Space Nine along with us on Netflix. It updates every other Sunday night at 10 PM CST. NDoS alternates with its partner series, The Beige and The Bold, which is about Star Trek: The Next Generation.

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Rightful Heir

Worf meets Klingon Jesus, who's changed a lot since he fought Kirk and Abraham Lincoln on the rock guy planet. The episode is better than I remembered and I'm glad I could watch it with Grym, who is a fan of the Klingons. 

"Rightful Heir" is a cool combination of science, religion, and Klingon politics. Does Trek even handle religion this well again until Deep Space Nine?

My guest this week is Grym, who doesn't have a project he's working on, but who loves Wyrd Games' Malifaux. 

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Duet

And we're done.

It's weird, after six years, for Derek to be out. But here we are. I don't really know what comes next.

See you space cowboy.

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Starship Mine

I don't feel like there's a lot of depth to plumb here. It's "Die Hard on a starship." It's competently executed, but lacks real stakes and apes the original's character beats instead of making up ones that fit Star Trek. 

I dunno. Who should've gotten this? Worf, as he murders his way through twice as many mooks, going "You know how I said I'd kill you last? I lied" while holding a guy in front of an approaching baryon field. Geordi? Who's doing all this with his engineering knowledge plus he's having visor problems and--who knows--has a history with the main thief? Doctor Crusher who can spin kick and hypospray folks into next week at a 0.8 Worfs, but also has to find a way to save them from the sweep? Anyone else?

My guest this week is Dr. Izixs from Watchers of Tomorrow, which also watches old Star Trek and sci-fi stuff and talks about it. You can find Watchers of Tomorrow at: www.watchersoftomorrow.com

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