Thursday, January 05, 2017

17 to 01: The One With the Whales

Derek. Hates. Fun.

That's all I have to say.

Except for the part where Derek said "Andy Rooney" when he meant "Benny Hill."

It only occurs to me now that Kirk likely violated a temporal prime directive in saving themselves from the probe. Like, would The Federation allow anyone else to travel in time to save their planet like Kirk saved Earth? The intervention of an alien species might be a mitigating factor, as well as the fact that the abduction of George and Gracie might have been part of a stable time loop, but the extinction of the whales was a mistake Earth made and a extinction as a result of a civilization's shortsightedness is kind of exactly what The Prime Directive is for. Saving Earth probably should have been an additional criminal charge for him.

"I Hate You" full song link:

Also, next week is the Season 4 supplemental and the end of 17 to 01, so there's no movie trailer for Star Trek V: The Final Frontier.

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VanVelding said...

Also, Nimoy did direct Three Men and a Baby.

The HMS Bounty is known solely for the mutiny (unless you're really into breadfruit).

Beverly Hills Cop was 1984 & Die Hard was 1988.

Orca exists and has boob bumps. She’s basically DC’s mammalian version of Komodo, and if you don’t know who Komodo is, WE CAN’T BE FRIENDS. Ugh, she’ll be in the Lego Batman Movie so come back to me after that thing has come out and made a shitzillion dollars.

James Horner did the music for Star Trek II, Star Trek III, Aliens, and a hundred other movies. His IMDB is insane.

SkilTao said...

I don't think you violate a temporal prime directive as long as you don't change history between your departure date and your arrival date. Collecting samples and returning them to your "present" time could be fine. ...I want to say that how far back you can time travel might be linked to the mass of the star you whip around (hence the Enterprise always traveling 300 years back); but you could just do multiple passes to go further, so it doesn't actually limit how far you could go or how badly you can mess with rival races. Dang.

Kzinti delegate in a starfleet uniform?!

No deep observations about the movie. It is, like you said, built to be fun.

Time traveling: yet another way for starfleet captains to manipulate their way out of court martials.

Hey, this guy who sounds kinda like Sisco, plays Sisco's dad? That's neat.

I didn't think about the Vulcan hats until you pointed them out AND HOLY SHIT, THE SPACE ELVES ARE WEARING LITERAL ELF HATS. I had no idea that Star Trek was so committed to Vulcans being literal space elves.

So many references to this movie in Futurama and other stuff, but I just want to say, What's-her-face drives Kirk and Spock around town like she's got a flying taxi or something... I agree with Derek, the movie relies maybe a little too much on the crazy cat-whale lady being crazy. I do appreciate that she's apparently never interested in romancing Kirk.

VanVelding said...

He's probably Caitian, right?

And yes, literal space elves.

VanVelding said...

Also, I truly like the matching of the method of time travel with the set amount of temporal flux.

SkilTao said...

Oh right, forgot about the Caitians.

Method = flux:
- could set the risk per attempt high enough to discourage multiple attempts. You need pretty high warp capability for it anyway, which should prevent general use by NPCs.
- on one hand, you could just go to a bigger star to go farther; on the other hand, you'd *have* to go to a bigger star, which is useful plotwise.
- the Enterprise's first trip was with a rogue black hole, and the amount of flux was accidental; in the movie, they had to go back far enough that whales weren't extinct, but I don't think they specified how much they might overshoot.